Octuplets

[Bretts mummy Emma]

I can't believe this woman is using her poor babies as a way of making money. I know that bringing up children is expensive but surely she was aware of this having 6 children before getting preg with the 8 babies she has just given birth to. If she cannot afford to look after these children properly then she shouldn't be allowed to keep them at all. And as for having 6 children at home with grandparents and 8 babies in hospital while she is on tv parading her family like some kind of circus show I think it is disgusting!!!!!

[emmie's mammy]

this story has amazed me.

14 kids  thats 1 more than my great granny had by the time she was 39.

i can understand ppl getting upset over this but i also think if she wants to have that many kids then why not.
i DO NOT AGREE with her using these babies as a money maker tho. thats just not right.

i have had 6 kids and i hope no one thinks i would be selfish if i decided i wanted to have more. i love each and every one of my kids, i live for them.
i dont work but im studying really hard to sit my exams on web & graphics design at the moment and in the mean time my husband works full time to provide for us. even tho were kinda rocky atm but thats another story lol.

if this woman is going to provide for these kids herself, then i think good luck to her but if shes gonna have to depend on benefits & other ppl to raise these kids then her having ivf should not be alloud.

sorry if i offended anyone but being a mum of 6 already we havent 100% ruled out having more kids. but havent 100% decided were gonna have more ither. i wouldnt like to think anyone was giving me a bad name for wanting to raise more kids.

just my opinion guys.

xxx

[Jen]

Please don't think any one is saying anything about how many children anyone should have. That has never been the issue with anyone who has posted on this thread.

Lots of people have many children and I believe that is a personal decision for each parent to make and none of anyone else's business.

The issue here was by having so many embryos transferred at one time, she KNEW that she would have babies that would be born very prematurely. That's the bit that has really upset me. She has compromised the health of all eight of those babies INTENTIONALLY by having so many at once. From what the press has said, her eight are the only surviving octuplets in the world which sadly means that she was willing to have some of her babies die to satisfy some urge of her's. The medical team looking after her did very, very well to get her to almost 31 weeks. Almost all of her babies were born at less than half the average weight of a 31 weeker. That in itelf tells of the dangers of carrying so many babies in one pregnancy.

The mums on here who have had babies born at that sort of gestation know the real fight their little ones had to go through and sadly not all of them are still with their mums today.

Had she had 14 children one or two at a time and  gave each the best start she could by doing so, then no one would have anything to say about it. There are lots of people out there with 14 or more children and no one ever passes comment.

From what the press have said she does not work but I don't think that is even relevant. It's not the state benefits that galls me, its the mega bucks she will earn from touting her children's story around the tv stations and newspapers. They are precious little human beings, not a comodity.

Please don't think that anyone is saying that each parent should only have a certain quota of children. It really isn't anything to do with that at all.

I now look forward to reading your next announcement on PAL - and the 7 after that. I hope you don't mind if I don't offer to babysit them all  Whatever you decide to do the decision is yours and no one will be anything other than pleased for you.

Jen

[Bretts mummy Emma]

I hope that putting what I put caused no offence as that was not my intention at all. I was not commenting on how many children she has just the fact that she is obviously trying to make money from them even tho she should be by their bedside wiling them to pull thru. I agree that it's not just the 'mother' (if we can call her that) that is the wrong over this as she would have been told the complications and implications of trying to bring 8 babies into the world safely, but also the doctor who put that many embryos back into her!!!! He/she should be struck off for putting so many small children at risk.

[Bretts mummy Emma]

May I also add that I do not have any issue whatsoever with the amount of children people choose to have, I for one would love a large family (not sure if my DP would agree tho lol)

My grandmother is one of 14!!! and she went on to have 7 of her own. She now has over 30 grandchildren and 10 great grandchildren and only just turned 69 this year!!!!!

[emmie's mammy]

  I can assure there will not be 8 more PAL posts from me haha i dont think i will ever even have  8 more times in my life lol
maybe 1... oh i should not even be saying that, if my mum knew id be a dead woman  .

no one offended me by ther opinions i just thought maybe some ppl might think if someone has many kids they should be greatfull and not want more.  my bad

i see what you mean now about the risks, i havent ever been in that situation with having a prem baby so cant even begin to imagine what the parents of prem babies go thru. it must be so hard and terrifing. i agree putting 8 kids lives at risk is wrong. should the doctors not have known there might be a risk some or even all of thoses babies lives could have been lost? i conceived all my kids naturally and kno nothing about ivf myself but this lady has had 6 thru ivf so should have known the risks aswel.

im glad the babies have all survied tho. and just hope now she has 14  and has been lucky for the babies to have made it here alive that she might think twice about having so many embrios implanted if she decides she wants more children.

i actually thought 2 embrios was the most you could have implanted  i have a family member who went thru ivf for 10 years and only had 2 implanted at any 1 time. her attempts failed until the last shot & she gave birth to 2 healthy twin girls 

love 

[Bretts mummy Emma]

This woman had them done in America which I think has much more relaxed views on IVF and the amount of embryos that can be put back in.

I have had 3 children and all three were prem babies, Conor was 3 weeks early and needed to spend 2 weeks in SCBU, Joel was 4 weeks early and needed 12 days in SCBU and Brett was 6 weeks early and spent 10 days in SCBU. Even tho my babies weren't as prem as some mummies on here or didn't spend as long in hospital it is still such a stressful time, esp when with Joel and Brett where I had children at home so had to split my time between home and hospital. When in hospital I missed my child/ren at home and when at home I missed my baby in hospital. You go thru so many different emotions that you feel drained at the end of each day. And that doesn't even inc the check ups the hospital have to do on you, finding the time to go to the toilet, let alone eat  and then you need to sleep at the end of the day or the middle of the night depending on whether you were at home or in the hospital.

I just hope that this woman knows what it will entail bringing up 14 children.

Does anyone know if she is single or married???

 

[charlene]

What i read was this woman is single & all the sperms where from the same donator.

[charlene]

As in all her 14 kids were from the same sperm donor.  She conceived all her kids thru IVF

[charlene]

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[GillyF]

There is a really revealing story in The Times today about the "doctor" responsible for these babies from a British embryologist who once worked with him.

Basically, because IVF in the US is so poorly regulated he enabled a woman of very questionable intelligence, morals and motives to produce 14 children who all could so easily have been miscarried, born extremely prematurely, been severely handicapped or have died before or after birth . And she has paraded them in front of the media like they are exhibits in a freak show.

Do they need to change their system? Yes they do!

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